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For the Health Of It™© Volume 2, #4: How can we help you?

This recent email conversation is worthy of scrutiny by  Veritas Health Care members, friends and the larger audience that cares about Health and Health Care.
On Oct 20, 2013, at 11:20, Dr. Mike (Michael F. Mascia MD, MPH) wrote in response to an email from one of our Working Group members …
“Thanks …
Your comments lead me to some questions for the VHC Working Group.
The big one is this:
1.  How does Veritas Health Care take us from what is NOW (Unacceptable) 
to what is BEST CARE?
A.  MY THOUGHTS: Much of this is reiteration of previous words.
Best Care for each and best for all in every community.  That is our big challenge and
the reason why we exist.  BEST care is personal and individualized … 
Personalized … crafted to meet the NEEDS of each and every person in the
context of her or his community.  
Focus: Individual Health, Family Health, Community Health in the context of 
Public Health and Safety
Key Words:
Palliation (when cure is not an option)
That means … CARE is based upon a human relationship … give and take … 
reciprocity.  Without reciprocity, there is no chance of sustainability.
This does not exclude creative currency … currency need not be money.
None of this CARE can be reproduced an industrial scale for some sake of 
giving a few pennies to “the man” for each encounter.  That Corporate for profit
model is simply bogus in Health Care.  Real People don’t fit into the Kentucky Fried
Chicken model except to make profit for HCA.  Their model: no profit<>no care.
So, who is the care giver? … the generic provider? … The Healer?
I prefer the term Designated Healer.  Who is the Designated Healer?
That would depend upon the the Patient and whomever is the Designated Healer
in the local community, no?
Then comes the question of BEST CARE … Quality and Outcome …
What is best care for me … as a patient, or for one of my beloved? 
Yes, to answer that question, we each need to see ourselves as Patients, 
not as providers.
I do not need to impose my Provider status on anyone to recognize
the value of having a trusted Physician for myself.  
On the other hand, BEST
CARE for me is SELF CARE … Targets Health (In every sense of the term)
and the Health and Safety of everyone in my charge.
Followed by precision and timely 
1. Preventive Care, then
2. Primary Care
3. Secondary Care
4. Tertiary Care
For me, that includes:
Self, Family, VHC Members, Patients and Friends
Do I have a trusted Family Doctor?  NO … my doc dropped out a couple years 
ago, because he could not do what he was trained to do in the context of 
The Business of Medicine … and that is a problem … for me and the larger
community.  That is a major flaw in my personal care.
And, I would like to have a few coaches in there with me.  And, I could use other 
help that would be related to health and health care … someone to help me with 
stuff around the house … cut wood, help take care of the yard work, house work.
Assorted stuff that needs to be done to keep a healthy environment, food, exercise,
Fortunately I am well, so I do not need to fret over any of it, but I think it is a bad idea
to have no personal physician.
Should I have a trusted Family Doctor?  Yes!
So, who will I find to take that role?  I do not know.  
I do have a wise dentist.  He enables self care and uses other providers to extend his reach to enhance
his services and that is fine with me.
Each of us should go through this exercise.
I had proposed that each of us list our Top TEN Health and Health Care needs
and … share it with the group … anonymously, if you prefer.
I suggest this would be a usefully exercise for us to 
a. help figure the needs of our community as it stands
b. help create proper survey tools to examine needs of individuals
who might like to join us.
2.  How does Veritas Health Care address concerns of individual members? 
I would like to see 
a. Frequently asked questions
b. Pro<>Con debates
c. Individualized liaison: For each new member.
As it stands, I am the liaison for each of our current members.
That is not sustainable for the long haul.  As it stands, as each of you brings
new members in, you will be the liaison for “your” new member.
3.  How do we “fact check” and verify our words, before they are posted?
I would like to see
a. An editorial board to review all of our official posted material
b. Pro<>Con debates with posted evidence for controversial matters.
c. Peer Review and commentary on all debates before posting.
4. To address your specific concerns, Ray.
a.  I see our mission as working toward Patient<>Physician<>Provider Cooperatives.
Maybe we should take this on as an issue for debate?
Bottom line, we are all PATIENTS and we need to see ourselves as patients, if this thing
is going to work for the long haul. 
b. On the shield description.  
Does this need debate?  History dictates the facts, no?
I think we are both correct, and does it really matter?  
It is important that Veritas Health Care is accurate and 
that our words are carefully chosen.
And, everything is always subject to review and revision, but it needs to be
a rational process with some constraints, no?  I like the Open<>Honest
debate format.  Let’s make that happen, OK, Ray.
Most of the work on word crafting was done by a few directors and ALL of it
was reviewed by our working member group.
My/our references include many and discussion need not be constrained, but it will be reviewed and fact checked, as much as we can.
One of our (former) members wanted me to remove all references to 
The Hippocratic Oath.  I offered a platform to debate his position and 
supply an alternative … even anonymously.  He refused.  
We need this debate platform for now and the future … 
Michael F. Mascia, MD, MPH
On Oct 22, 2013, at 12:36, I forwarded this response from Don McCormick.
This is Don’s response …
A Value Based Health Care System
Don McCormick
Health can be improved greatly by community organization,medical education and training when backed by practical and private financial support from the people who use and provide medical services in accordance with values set by the patients and physicians.

A Value Based Health Care System

By Don McCormick


Amazing things happen when people who share a common vision come together.Relationships with like-minded people give us the knowledge, the courage, and the commitment to change the way in which we do things so as to improve them.

Networks emerge from these kindred relationships that grow and transform into active working communities. The scale of these networks can be as large as the common interests of the communities they create.  Within these communities the influence and capacities for change become greater than those of the individual participants. It is like a living force and is invested with greater power than is possible by planned incremental change.

Through this vibrant change we connect people who are separated geographically and who have many differences in ideas and attitudes. This often happens in spite of conflicting plans and can lead to large scale solutions to intractable problems we encounter in health care and in economics.

Networks are powerful and appear to be self-organizing because of the rapidity of their emergence. They seem not to have a hierarchy or to have control mechanisms that humans normally impose on their organizations. They are more like living organisms with internal intelligence and symbiotic relationships.

Maps of the networks within the communities that emerge are useful in convincing the participants of their reality and their nature. Identifying the roles within the mapped networks becomes useful in controlling and changing the work that is desired for positive outcomes. These communities are dynamic social beings that can be kept alive and grow in either healthy or destructive ways depending on the internal leadership and how the emergence is fostered.

Change begins as local actions become connected. As the actions emerge they can influence all of the connected communities very rapidly and a new power will appear that is greater than the sum of its parts. It will have new capacities different from the local actions and may surprise those who launched them. This is often observed in nature when animals act in concert as a school of small fish may appear to be a large fish to fool its predators.

Social change undertaken by skillful practitioners should be through connections to like-minded people. The skills and capacities needed by the system will emerge more readily than through traditionally designed programs. There are usually three stages in this Emergence:

Stage One: People with like interests network together for their own benefit and to develop their own work.

Stage Two: Networks make it possible for people to find others engaged in similar work and thereby create communities in which the desired work can be accomplished using the talents and skills of the networked participants. If it is an open source community then the discoveries and desirable end results will spread to the other communities.

Stage Three: A system appears that has real power and influence. Pioneering efforts that hovered at the periphery suddenly become the norm. The practices developed by courageous communities become the accepted standard. People no longer hesitate about adopting these approaches and methods and they learn them easily.

There is no scientific explanation for how local changes can materialize as global systems of influence. However, the emergence of networks and communities who do work for positive change by the intentional acts of concerned people can make a big difference in how well we live and survive. This is especially true in the areas of health care and economics. 1


Note 1 ( This Introduction is a short summary of a paper written by Margaret Wheatley and Deborah Frieze titled “USING EMERGENCE TO TAKE SOCIAL INNOVATIONS TO SCALE”)

Reality and Our Goals


There is a short story called The Lottery that is a metaphor for our local community health care system. In this story members of a small town assign death by stoning to a randomly chosen citizen. The game becomes accepted annual tradition in the town. Although the townspeople appear saddened at losing their family members and neighbors, they never question the morality of a game that gambles with human life.  


Our community health system in which sales, profits, convenience, and productivity are placed above healthcare seems like this fictional short story. Patients and health professionals suffer under the system because they are powerless to change what is seen as the destructive health habits of individuals. 

We know that improvements in our healthcare system stem from a broader understanding of the economic, social, and environmental factors that determine health. We can change the system by working in our own communities to identify and challenge policies that have profound effects on individual health. For example, there is evidence that social determinants of health, such as poverty, lack of education and school nutrition have a greater influence on health than individual risk behaviors. Considering this, it may be possible with knowledgeable leadership to eliminate some health risks altogether and to generally improve health care and reduce its cost. 

Physicians can play a significant role in disease prevention by establishing themselves in particular communities, both their offices and their residences, and by teaching a group of patients to be community health workers and organizers. Based on that kind of educational and organizational activity the clinic can become a cooperative that would grow to the size needed to support the physician and deliver primary health care to about 3,000 patients.


Those of us who know about the health care problems and the potential solutions need to add our voices and labor to this cause: The Organization of Local Patient/Physician Cooperatives. From what we already know we can identify ways that physicians and patients can become involved in influencing community health policy. We can identify and describe the local economic, social, and environmental determinants of health relevant to the area we want to develop.  By organizing physicians and patients around community health issues such as tobacco control, air pollution, food policy, or advertising to children, we can become a voice for change and influence the public policy that influences health. By teaching health care to selected patients who live in the community they will be enabled to organize their families, friends and neighbors to join the cooperative and establish the clinic. These trained patients will make up a health committee that will:



Make the neighborhood secure so the physician and nurses can work freely and comfortably in the area.


Accompany the physician or nurses on rounds to patient homes to show support and give confidence to the providers and the patients.


Help collect and record all of the demographic and medical data.


Measure the health outcomes based on the values to the patients.


Promote “comprehensive community medicine.”


Promote a culture of wellness.


Analyze data and identify major ailments in the patient population.


Help to fix the problems that are identified using the prescriptions of the primary care physician.


Make the work real and the people involved accountable.


The teaching and organizing activities precede any deliver and financing systems for health care services. Once a primary care physician is in place and the community health worker team has been trained and deployed the patient membership can be built in such a way that the physician and the team know every patient on a first name basis and the medical problems that these patients need help in solving. In that process the social determinants of health care in the community will be well understood by the physician and the patient members so that root causes of bad health can be systematically addressed.


Our Strategy


In a community with a population of about 30,000 people we should establish ten primary care practices on this model and over a period of two years enroll 3,000 patients into each cooperative clinic. If there is an average of 3 people in each household then we could expect 1000 household memberships. Each community health care worker would be responsible for 100 households. That number is about the limit of personal contacts an individual can manage. Most of the time this kind of medical care and relationship building work is best done by women between the ages of 30 and 60, but there are exceptions.


Ultimately this development will allow the cooperatives to achieve goals and objectives not possible in the traditional healthcare systems. These are those goals:



Put preventive care first.


Train health providers to promote comprehensive integration of family health care in community life.


Increase the number of physicians per patient in the population until it is 1 for every 150 patients instead of 1 for 417 patients as it is now in the United States.


Reduce the cost of drugs by every means possible and introduce herbal medicines to provide alternatives to patients that cannot afford patent medicines.


Place physicians in communities with the greatest needs.


Raise the awareness of public health issues to lower mortality and morbidity rates


Have physicians live among the poor to learn first-hand the sources of their illnesses.


Increase primary care and improve specialist skills by making primary care their starting base.


Start with “comprehensive general medicine” in neighborhood clinics and then form “basic health teams.”


A team is a physician, a nurse practitioner, and two nurses and the volunteer health committee of six patient members (the physician trained community health workers) assisted by a specialist team at the diagnostic clinics or specialty hospitals.


The local team serves 3,000 patients (about 1,000 households). Specialty groups at diagnostic clinics can serve patients from 10 to 20 of these teams.


The physician lives in the neighborhood he or she serves and is available 24/7.


The physician and the nurses treat patients both in the clinic and in the patient’s homes.


These providers get all of the vital medical information and record it in the Electronic Medical Records system.


The health committee members and the providers teach preventive care to every patient member.


Each specialty diagnostic clinic serves from 30,000 to 60,000 patients.


Teams are thorough and attentive to each patient and know them all personally.


The patients that are hospitalized are accompanied to the hospital by their primary care physician, and that physician consults with the specialty teammembers that will care for the patient while he or she is hospitalized.


Every specialist is also able to do primary care because they did that before becoming a specialist in this group.


Medicine in this setting is a science that is integrated with “real life” processes and is aligned with the quantum physics now assumed to be the truth about our world and universe.


Identification of problems and interactive learning are used to increase cognitive independence.


Epidemiology and Public Health are emphasized.

This common sense system and its goals cannot be defeated by adversity because it is a continuous process of overcoming problems that are far more complex and closer to the values of each person in the community than any general opposition that will arise because of pride or greed.

Within this network of cooperatives we can create a local medical center and a university without walls to bring everyone that is interested into a fuller understanding of their role in the health care system, from patients, to health committee members, to nurses, to technicians, to sports trainers, to primary care physicians and to specialists. The process begins with pledges, first from the medical care providers, and then from the patients.  Once the pledges are complete the funding begins for both development and operations.  




The practical organization of this system can begin with physicians. The expectation should be that the physicians will quit their current practices that are imbedded in the failed system and adopt a new system wholly controlled by the patients and the physicians themselves. Many of their current patients should follow them into this system, but it will not matter because the practice will be fully populated before there is a need for the physician to move into the new practice environment.

We will begin by surveying the entire population in ten specific geographical locations that are close enough together that a single multi-specialty group could serve the members without having transportation problems that might indirectly cause medical problems. This chosen public will have to be introduced to the power and benefits of a cooperative in which they are partners with the physicians. We define primary care physicians to be practitioners who are trained at the masters and doctoral levels in Western or Eastern Medicine and act within their authority based on their state licenses. We will find within these small communities the nine people we need to work with the primary care physician:Six community health workers, Two nurse educators and One nurse practitioner.  We will then have the physician, who will be the master of this practice, teach and train these nine people in basic health care, preventive medicine, andadvanced medical care to whatever extent their skills can be developed.

Once the primary care teams are trained they will be deployed in the communities to help their friends and neighbors understand and decide to join the cooperative and to support it financially.  In advance of the deployments, the surveyors will have contacted the families in the community many times. They will meet with them often in health fairs and informational gatherings.  With this advanced marketing and communication the needed 1000 households will be more easily enrolled by the community health workers and more easily served by the nurses and physicians.

Ten such cooperatives will require the support of a multi-specialty clinic served by the following types of specialists:




Emergency Medicine




General Surgery








Obstetrics & Gynecology




Orthopedic Surgery








Radiology & Diagnostic Radiology



Beyond this large clinic there will be a Thirty-Bed Acute Care Hospital and beyond that contracts with specialty hospitals that fit the performance and quality guidelines of the cooperatives.  We expect the multi-specialty clinic and hospital to be on the same campus and centrally located relative to the ten cooperatives.




The system will require four kinds of non-profit entities: (1) the Cooperative, (2) the Physician Association, (3) the Hospital, and an HMO. These entities will be governed by board members elected by the patients and physicians who are active members of the cooperative. The capital needed to do this development and bring it to the point of producing a surplus will be $25,000,000. The physicians who will be needed for this project are 50 in number and they will be expected to contribute $2,500,000, about $50,000 each. The patients needed are 30,000 in number and they will be expected to contribute $750 each.  In each case the money can be borrowed from the bank at non-usurious rates and paid back on a schedule needed by the borrower.

The facilities needed by the cooperatives, the multi-specialty clinic, and the hospital will be leased from a developer.  In order for the developer to gain this business it must contribute money in advance to the organizations for the pre-development expenses. It is expected that these contributions will be factored into the leases on the facilities that are constructed. This contribution is $3,000,000 and is made to the cooperative’s management company.

After the system is operational the surpluses generated from the premiums collected for health care will be shared as follows:


40% to the participating physicians and their staffs


40% to the patient members of the cooperative in the form of premium reductions on renewals


15% to the Cooperative’s management company


5% to the developer

The detailed projected health care costs including cost of primary unit, estimated compensation of family practice physicians, community health assistants, nurse educators, nurse practitioners, office overhead, specialty clinic cost, emergency care, acute care, specialty hospitals cost, as well as cash flow projections for developing and operating the entire Patient/Physician Cooperative, are shown here.


Compensation is based on the amounts reportedly being earned by physicians in 2013.


The number of people is based on the physicians and staff needed to serve a population of 30,000

The cost of the hospitals is based on data we have from the operation of a 30 bed facility plus the

Sub-contracting with specialty hospitals. Based on premiums the market will tolerate (PMPM) of $325, compared with average medical care per person in the US estimated at $650, the gross margin for a facility that serves a population of 30,000 is $61,365,000.

Savings to the Government and employers is calculated at $55,635,000.

















There are four non-profits companies needed to form the core of this health care system and each must be licensed by the states in which they do business:



A Patient/Physician Cooperative licensed as a Discount Medical Benefits Organization


A Physician Association, licensed by Texas Medical Board as anapproved Physician Association


A Hospital, licensed by the State as an acute care Hospital


A Health Maintenance Organization, licensed by the State as an HMO


A management services organization company is needed to operate all of the above listed non-profit entities. In the case of our project that is MRSB Services, Ltd.


The structure of the management contract will be a reciprocal. MRSB Serviceswill charge 5% of the gross income for total management of each non-profit entity and will share 15% of the surpluses generated from the products and services of each company.


MRSB Services may have sub-contractors that carry out specialized functions in each company they manage.  The cost of the sub-contractors is contained in the reciprocal share of 5% and in the 15% share of surpluses.


Based on the projections of gross margin, the cost of the management fees and the share of the surpluses are:


5% Fees: ​​​$5,850,000 per year

15% of Surpluses​​$9,204,750 per year.


Shared Saving Summary


​​​Providers​​$24,546,000 per year (from $50,000 to $100,000 each)

​​​Patients​​$24,546,000 per year (premium rebate of $818)

​​​Developer​​$ 3,068,250 per year



Up to the Twentieth Century, reality was everything humans could touch, smell, see, and hear. Since the initial publication of the chart of the electromagnetic spectrum, humans have learned that what they can touch, smell, see, and hear is less than one-millionth of reality. Ninety-nine percent of all that is going to affect our tomorrows is being developed by humans using instruments and working in ranges of reality that are non-humanly sensible.

R. Buckminster Fuller on Education (University of Massachusetts Press, 1979), p. 130

Traditional human power structures and their reign of darkness are about to be rendered obsolete.

 R. Buckminster Fuller


On Nov 5, 2013, at 4:56, “Michael F. Mascia MD, MPH”  wrote:
Please listen to this story and tell us how we can help you.
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Thanks for your help.
Dr. Mike
Michael F. Mascia, MD, MPH


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